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An Opposing Opinion On Banks And Mortgage Brokers

Intro by Larry Cragun, Article by Teresa Boardman

I have taken some pretty hard stands these near 11 months agains banks. All of my comments have favored mortgage brokers.

In a conversation with Teresa Boardman about lenders I found a surprising difference of opinion.

I wanted what she said available here for you the consumer. Teresa relucantly provided this article. Thanks Teresa, and you aint no weenie. Lar

Mortgage Brokers Vs. Banks for home loans.

This post is my opinion based on my experiences as A Realtor/Broker in St. Paul, MN. This is not intended as an indictment of all mortgage brokers. There are wonderful mortgage bookers all over the country that I have the utmost respect for. Both the mortgage industry and the real estate industry are highly regulated on the state level, my experiences and those of my clients may not have meaning in other markets. Most of my experiences with the mortgage industry have been positive.

There are three lenders that I recommend when buyers ask for advice. These three lenders get rave reviews from my clients, have the utmost integrity and are wonderful to work with. Helpful, honest outside the box thinkers, who care about our clients and who always do the right thing. Two are loan officers with banks and one is a mortgage broker.

That said, in general I prefer to work with banks rather than mortgage brokers. The money for home loans comes from banks, even if the loan is handled by a brokerage. I believe that the banks I deal with have the best rates and they have more access to first time home buyer programs. My business has an affordable housing component in it as a business goal, these lenders are also involved in affordable housing initiatives.

I have not had any problems when dealing with USBank or Wells Fargo but I have had problems when dealing with some of the local mortgage brokers.

It is easy and inexpensive to get a license and go into business as a mortgage broker. We have too many of them and it is almost impossible to research them.

Here are some of the problems my clients and I have had when dealing with mortgages brokers:

1. Not being able to find them. When dealing with a bank we can find someone to help us if the loan officer is not available. As a listing agent I get a pre-approval letter from the buyers agent for an offer on one of my listings and it can take a business day before I can talk to anyone who can tell me if the letter and or the company are legitimate. As a buyers agent I want to know that my buyers are getting the best rates and are not borrowing more money than they can make payments on. How much money someone borrows is none of my business but if I can educate a borrower before it is too late they just might be spared some of the misery caused by a loan that is too risky or expensive.

2. The money not arriving in time for the closing. In Minnesota we close at the table, to accomplish that the money must be wired to the title companies trust account so that it can be disbursed at the closing.

3. Surprises at the closing, in one case $3000.00 dollars in fees that were never mentioned on the good faith estimate but showed up on the settlement statement. The surprise came on my 26th wedding anniversary so instead of enjoying time with my spouse I spent the evening on the phone with an upset buyer and confused closer. After hours of negotiations I was able to get the lender to remove or reduce most of the charges.

4. Higher loan costs, the interest rate may look lower. An examination of good faith estimates and settlement statements often reveals that the total cost to the borrower is not lower. Do mortgage brokers have the the same access to loan programs as the banks own lenders? I have been told that they do not.

5. Lack of access to some of the local city and county first time home buyer programs.

6. Failure to attend the closing. A closing mostly involves signing loan documents, the loan officer or someone from the bank always shows up. I have never had a mortgage broker show up at a closing.

7. Banks appear to supervise their loan offices and have some quality control built into the hiring process. A full time loan officer with a bank has more credibility than a part-time mortgage broker who also owns and operates the local pizzeria.

I am not an expert on mortgages, I sell real estate. Each December I take a class that gives me an overview and update of various loan products and how they work, a legal update and an overview of local mortgage trends. I rely on people I know and trust in the mortgage industry to answer my questions and those of my clients.

The homes we purchase, and loan products we choose have an impact on our long term financial health. Each time one of my buyers gives a mortgage I am struck by the enormity of it all.

The one mortgage broker that I refer business to has 12 years experience in the industry. Also a person with a lot of integrity, he has more experience working with investors, than either of the loan officers. I believe that the investors I work with will come out ahead when they use his services.

The owners of Keller Williams Integrity Realty also have ownership interests in a mortgage company. In general I avoid recommending any company that is financially tied to the brokerage I am affiliated with, an almost unheard of stance in our industry. Many have tried to change my mind about “affiliated” services but no one has made any progress.

Teresa Boardman

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APR Should Stand For Another Public Ripoff

The APR intention is a good one: provide the consumer with a way to compare rates and fees in one number so you can see the difference in what lenders are charging you. It was to be the simple way for consumers to shop.

The problem is that it isn’t simple, it is confusing, and most lenders are inaccurate and sloppy in this. The bigger problem is you the consumer don’t and won’t understand it. Truthfully, I bet if you ask 3 loan officers what are the components of the APR formula you would get 3 different answers.

If loan officers don’t get it, how can you? Even more important, how can you count on it?

There are supposed consequence to inaccurate quotes, sure that helps for the one a million that get that far.

My suggestion, don’t count on using APR. To me it is like being in a boxing match and putting your guard down. It is like saying, “go ahead and rip me off.”
You would be much more effective in learning the details of lending and find the right lender on line on this site, making sure you get to a loan officer that has a real estae agent referring you, and being careful.

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Another Lender Goes Down

Loan City, a conventional lender announced they are out of business. What you the consumer should do if you have a loan in process is to immediately call your loan officer and determine if your loan was locked with Loan City. If it is you need to have time to move the file to a new lender and to see if you can stay at the rate you are locked in. You should also inquire if rates are lower now, they may be, and this would be one of those rare times you can lock and get a lower rate. Larry Cragun

LoanCity is closed for business. Today March 20, 2007 is the last day we will be funding loans. To our customers, our staff and business partners - we thank you.

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The 10 Things I Like Most About The Mortgage Business

I decided you should know the positive reasons to be a loan officer, income not to be included.
1- You find out just how many people are prudent with how the handle their financial lives.
2- You have this sense that you are helping people.
3- You realize how many men are real lucky to have the wife they have, so you don’t feel alone.
4- It is a real challenging business in many ways.
5- Every file seems to have its own unique story, needs, and facts, no boredome here.
6- If you like numbers, this is the place to work. More than you ever dreamed.
7- When you do a loan for the city clerk who isn’t a big earner but has saved all their lives, and is financially independent, you realize what it really takes, you are the one who has been taught.
8- You get to share others dreams and help make them happen.
9- You get to work with competent professional real estate agents, who share the love of this industry.
10- You value that you are counted on; to be honest, competent, and trusted.
It really is a great busines for the right people. Lar

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They Are Bailing Out!

Loan Officers and Real Estate Agents are finding it tough sailing. The larger portion of the lending force have few qualifications. They feasted on refinances. A signifcant portion of the agent force did well when so many buyers and sellers were to be found.

Last year many tried to make it part time. It is getting discouraging and many are bailing out. That is good. Those who survive do so because they love the business, have proven themselves, or are so danged determined they are the type of agent you want to work with.

Just be careful that when picking an agent or lender you don’t find one half way down and not yet landed in their new career.

Can’t you just hear the guy jumping above as he yells Bonzaiiiiiiiii. Yes, that is a good one. From real estate to landscaping. I love it. lar

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Some Guy Named Ralph Says I Am Giving Him A Headache.

Am I really doing too much loan officer bashing? No. I do offer a solution, a consumer protection solution. Be careful who you put in charge of your loan. We now invite loan officers that have real estate agents that will recommend them to participate in our national initiative soon to be in beta testing.

We will be directing consumers to the agent loan officer teams that have experience with each other. Now is the time to contact us if you have that capacity. Larry@mortgagesundressed.com Cragun.

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How Do Good Loan Officers Decide What To Charge You?

I have been challenged on a few old posts with, “what right do you have to mess with what people are charged”? “It is the market that determines that isn’t it?” “Let the market decide what loan officers should charge.”

That is all fairy tale talk. At least with the loan officers I would like to see out of the business. With rebates given for raising rates, including a pre-payment penalty clause, selling a sub-prime loan, or selling an ARM with terms favorable to the bank when the loan adjusts up it is very difficult to let the market decide the money the lender will earn.

Add to that - almost no one will go through a second application. If a liar can get you to fill out the application, you are nearly dead meat.

Add to that - if the liar or greedy loan officer can get you close to closing before you see the numbers he has got you. Too few people are willing to walk, even when getting ripped off.

Add to that - all too many borrowers are in a hurry at closing, just sign without reading.

So the bad ones, they charge as much as possible on each and every loan.

Then there are the stellar ones. The stellar ones are loan officers that are truly professional. The loan officer that can garner the trust of real estate agents. How do they charge?

First of all - they are having enough activity to know what is competitve.

Next - they believe in their hearts that the HUD 1 closing statement is an indication of their integrity. First of all it will match the Good Fatith Estimate for costs. It will match the lock sheet for rate and fees. These loan officers assume that the real estate agent for both sides of the sale, the borrower and everyone the borrower knows will some day see the HUD 1. They know that if there are thousands of dollars in rebates, someone will see them and judge them. They know their reputation is on the line, and more importantly their ability to get referrals and repeat business.

So in summary, how do good loan officers decide what to charge you? They charge what is competitive to the marketplace. The difference in a good loan officers methods, there are no tricks and there is full disclosure.

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More Market Condition Specifics - From A Deutsche Bank Subsidiary

MAJOR MARKET CHANGE ALERT !!!
Effective immediately the prime market is experiencing HUGE changes to high CLTV,
reduced doc, and NOO products!  The second lien market is evaporating at record
speed and is virtually becoming nonexistent!  These changes are happening across the
market, with all lenders ... remember the industry saying "subject to change without
notice".

What does this mean to you?

*        My community 100% which allows for EAI and EAII, low M.I.
*        Flex 80/20 loans still available Full Doc with score of 700 using our C30 and
Elite Full Doc seconds
*        Flex100 loans can be used instead of 80/20's and 75/25's
*        FHA 97% loans w/gift will be used instead of 80/20's
*        VA 100% loans will be used instead of 80/20's
*        OO Full doc Alt A loans will be capped at 95% cltv
*        OO SIVA, No Ratio, SISA, and No Doc 1st and 2nds will be capped at 90% cltv
*        NOO Full doc Alt A loans will be capped at 90% cltv
*        Discontinued ... NOO No Ratio, SISA and No Doc seconds

What else may be on the horizon?

*        SIVA, No ratio, SISA, and No doc will only be available for self employed?

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Fremont Investments Closes It’s Doors

Dan Green reporting. click here

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People Do Get Taken Advantage Of In This Business

They say Washington State has over 10,000 loan officers. My hunch, my educated hunch is that 8,000 are struggling financially. When the loan officer is having a low income period the tendency is to make a killing on one loan.

Also, some, greedy little devils are out to take as much from your transaction as possible as just a mere course of life.

The lending business is so complicated that you may find it difficult to catch all of the ways you get hurt and the loan officer gets a fat paycheck thanks to your naiivity.

(I inject here, that a very recent real life situation brings this article to press.)

I also ask you - do you think that $15,000 on one $300,000 transaction is a bit over the top in fees you pay the mortgage company for a loan? If you say no to this you are not to whom we right this blog. You say you would never allow that kind of expenses for a loan, say a refi. Of course you wouldn’t if you understood it was happening. But the cowards I have worked with, employed and fired, or competed against, do this under a cloak, as if they were in your bank account and you were unaware.

A competitor this week got to a dear friend. I was supposed to advize them and make sure he or I had the best program for them. I got an email, not a shot.
In one short email I felt sad for my dear friend. These people have good credit. They have enough income to qualify for a conforming (low rate) loan.

This tells me they got ripped off. “We only have a 3 year prepayment penalty.” We get to take cash out for an investment we could not have made, and that’s above the price to get the loan.”

Their ain’t no prepayment penalties in good credit. These good people got sold a subprime loan. The coward is going to make his money in rebates.

Fortunatly the subprime lenders are in a tail spin. Unfortunatley the greedy little snakes are finding unsuspecting folks that deserve conventional loans, and giving them a song and a dance, some money back, and a subprime loan.

It is disgusting. It is also one of the reasons for this blog.

I know it is more fun to look on line at homes than to learn about the mortgage tricks. It is certainly easier to tell the difference between a 4 bedroom home than a three than to know to look for an ARM Margin or if it is an ARM at all.

I try to make these mortgage and real estate blogs a bit zaney. I am a zaney kind of guy when feeling my oats. I try to make them quick and easy reads. I inject things you need to know a little at a time. This is probably one of my longer articles. I do things this way in hopes more than the 100 mostly professionals that drop by will become many more, and many that are consumers.

I guarantee regular visits will eventually get you educated enough to know what to watch out for. What I can’t guarantee is if you will be mature enough to not jump for a smooth sales pitch, or too busy to not read what you sign, or too committed to see a problem and sign anyway. If we prepare, you prepare, before it is too late, you might save 10 grand or so and a lot of headaches.

To add to the services for you, I not only write from my experiences, I search for other great writings. Thus came about the magnificent 7. I calculate that in February I read 4000 articles looking for 7 I could nominate for the 7 Magnificent in 2007. It was hard to do that few, so I am putting up nine for your review. Some are on lending some on real estate. This month they are posted on realestateundressed.com.

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